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kineyb

Who's John Williams?

llogg

I would move episode 4 to the top, but otherwise your ranking is pretty money.

As for the plot hole, maybe twins have identical signatures in the force. Okay, that's weak. You're right, somebody blew it in editing the script.

ROTJ was a little too cutesy with the Ewoks. In retrospect it certainly seems more self-conscious of licensing prospects than the first two.

Yeah, in episode 2 when Yoda is flipping all over the place it looks like a move from the old Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Nintendo game. In other words, weak.

Yeah, killing Darth Maul was foolish. But that fight scene was kick ass.

My biggest problem with the new trilogy is exactly what you stated. They should have started with Anakin as a teenager, already using the force by sheer instinct because he's just that badass. Starting with him as an annoying 9 year old kid was stupid. Especially since Padme had to be at least 18 or 20 in episode 1. Stranger things have happened than guys landing hot chics a decade older than them, but most of the time they're not insipid little wankers as Anakin was portrayed.

There were far too many attempts to weave details from the original trilogy into the new one. C3PO and R2 have no place in the new trilogy. It's ridiculous. Especially considering they didn't make the effort to spin Han Solo into the continuity. Poorly done. Not as poorly as the whole midichlorian debacle but still.

Characters like Jar Jar, Dexter, Sebulba, and the like should NEVER have been.

llogg

And KB, he's the composer of the Star Wars soundtracks.

Snake Diggity

llogg: agree with everything but I think Jar Jar and Sebulba filled roles that made sense, they just didn't do a good job with them. Jar Jar was meant to be what Chewie and moreso Yoda were in the OT; he was nowhere close.

Will

you love ewoks? huh? and pick me up a bootleg star wars dvd seplogy at the haji market on your way outta the big I

ambs

hmmm. that's a lot of geek talk. ha ha!! :-)

i love ray l though, so i'll give a thumbs up for that part of this post.

Ojo Rojo

Damn. Where do I even start?

My ranking:
1. Empire
2. Jedi
3. Star Wars
4. ROTS
5. Phantom Menace
6. Clones

The top three might change depending on what day you ask me. I don't know how much nostalgia factors into the rankings. Judging movies is too subjective to begin with and there are too many different criteria to say exactly how movies should be judged. I think the separation for me b/w the first three movies made versus the recent ones is CG vs. models and puppets. The models and puppets just look more realistic to me. The only area where I liked the CG as much was the spacefighter scenes. Overall though, they overdid it with the CG - too much going on. The could have kept it simple. One of my favorite scenes was from AOTS where Jango is chasing Kenobi through the asteroids - those blue trailed missiles were awesome. The sonic bombs that broke up the asteroids were badass too.

The debate will rage on forever over what Lucas did wrong with the latest movies but I think the two biggest were overuse of CG and horrible writing of both dialogue and plot development.

From the opening scene of Episode One I'm thinking, "Are they fucking serious?" Trade Federation? Blockade of the planet Naboo? Fake Chinese accents? I could go on and on and on with the disappointing flaws but here are a few that come immediately to mind:

-C3P0 and R2D2 had no business in any of the first 3 episodes.
-Casting of Anakin fucking horrible. Hayden Christensen was a fucking crybaby whiner, not the most powerful Jedi in the galaxy.
-Casting in general. Samuel L. Jackson had NO business in these movies. If the word "motherfucker" isn't in the script, he has no reason to be cast. None of the other movies had huge stars in them; that was part of the allure.
-Midichlorians. The Force isn't quantifiable like that. Idiots.
-Jar Jar. Fake ebonics accent? Idiots. At least they had the good sense to write him out of the sequels and even managed to make him out to be the fool/villain who allowed Palpatine to become emperor.
-The whole story of 1 & 2 is dumb. I get that Palpatine/Sidious is pulling all the strings. But that was too subtle. Palpatine should have been less a politician and more of a murderous manipulator. He doesn't need to dupe the representatives of systems into going along with his political agenda. He can crush their fucking throats from across the room with his mind!
-Sith was the best of the three by far. But it was almost impossible to fuck that up. Everyone wanted to see Vader created. But he almost did fuck it up with that Frankenstein shit. Once Anakin turned into Vader he should have had no remorse, no conscience, no love. THAT'S what should have killed Padme's spirit because Anakin was gone forever, destroyed by Sidious and replaced with pure hatred and evil.
-I hadn't considered it before, but starting the movies off with Anakin as a troubled and confused adolescent of 13-16 would have been better. It would have cured a lot of the age inconsistencies in the plot as well.

Like I said, I could go on and on. There were some good things about the 3 most recent movies and some bad things about the Episodes 4-6. Maybe nostalgia erases those things. In my mind, Lucas go old and soft and rich and his last three Star Wars incarnations show it. The guy who made the original 3 movies was imaginative and hungry. That's the difference in a nutshell.

Will

you guys are idiots! the phantom menace is by far the best of the franchise. the race scene was the best! and jar jar? the midiclorian debate is a metaphor for technological advancement i.e. CGI. you guys are IDIOTS

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